Speed (cruise) control trouble shooting

[Guillermo]

I am in the process of trouble shooting the speed control issue and wanted to get some feedback from the forum.



The recall was done by myself. I have gone down this list and the only issue I could see was the less than 1 ohm with the "off depressed"(1.8). Everything else checked out. Not sure if that is the speed control button or what.

 

[Guillermo]

Apologies. 1994 XLT, 5.8 351.

 

[miesk5]

Yo Guillermo,
If you still have concerns whatsoever about Speed Control Recalls, please contact the Ford Customer Relationship Center:
US: 800-392-3673 | CA: 800-565-3673
Note: 3673 spells "FORD" on phone keys
For the hearing- or speech-impaired: Please contact the Telecommunication Relay Service by dialing 71
... have VIN ready.
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Fuse 13 Blown, Stop & Hazard Lamps, Stop Sensor for Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS) Speed Control & PCM Short Circuits, Common Locations TSB 95-02-11 for 94-95 Bronco & F Series; See the location diagram
Source: by Ford via Chilton
Significant Excerpts:




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"The recall was done by myself. I have gone down this list and the only issue I could see was the less than 1 ohm with the "off depressed"(1.8). Everything else checked out. Not sure if that is the speed control button or what."

1.8 ohms could be caused by corroded connector terminals or what Ford describes as terminal back-out, etc.

 

[Guillermo]

Yo Guillermo,
If you still have concerns whatsoever about Speed Control Recalls, please contact the Ford Customer Relationship Center:
US: 800-392-3673 | CA: 800-565-3673
Note: 3673 spells "FORD" on phone keys
For the hearing- or speech-impaired: Please contact the Telecommunication Relay Service by dialing 71
... have VIN ready.
●
Fuse 13 Blown, Stop & Hazard Lamps, Stop Sensor for Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS) Speed Control & PCM Short Circuits, Common Locations TSB 95-02-11 for 94-95 Bronco & F Series; See the location diagram
Source: by Ford via Chilton
Significant Excerpts:
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"The recall was done by myself. I have gone down this list and the only issue I could see was the less than 1 ohm with the "off depressed"(1.8). Everything else checked out. Not sure if that is the speed control button or what."

1.8 ohms could be caused by corroded connector terminals or what Ford describes as terminal back-out, etc.

Thank you for the info sir. I’ll report back.

 

[miesk5]

Yo buddy,
Al here, sir is not necessary.
Be well!

 

[Guillermo]

Yo Guillermo,
If you still have concerns whatsoever about Speed Control Recalls, please contact the Ford Customer Relationship Center:
US: 800-392-3673 | CA: 800-565-3673
Note: 3673 spells "FORD" on phone keys
For the hearing- or speech-impaired: Please contact the Telecommunication Relay Service by dialing 71
... have VIN ready.
●
Fuse 13 Blown, Stop & Hazard Lamps, Stop Sensor for Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS) Speed Control & PCM Short Circuits, Common Locations TSB 95-02-11 for 94-95 Bronco & F Series; See the location diagram
Source: by Ford via Chilton
Significant Excerpts:
View attachment 28007
View attachment 28008


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"The recall was done by myself. I have gone down this list and the only issue I could see was the less than 1 ohm with the "off depressed"(1.8). Everything else checked out. Not sure if that is the speed control button or what."

1.8 ohms could be caused by corroded connector terminals or what Ford describes as terminal back-out, etc.

Hey Al,
I have a question: does the airbag module need to be hooked up for the speed control to work?

 

[miesk5]

Hey Al,
I have a question: does the airbag module need to be hooked up for the speed control to work?

Yo G,
No. Airbag module has no interaction with speed control system.
But 4WABS DOES.
Speed Control Wiring Diagram in a 94
Source: by Ford

 

[sinker4]

If you replaced any break light bulbs with LED replacements then the cruise wont work. It need the resistance in the standard bulbs.

 

[Guillermo]

If you replaced any break light bulbs with LED replacements then the cruise wont work. It need the resistance in the standard bulbs.

All OEM light bulbs. Appreciate the feedback!

 

[Guillermo]

Yo G,
No. Airbag module has no interaction with speed control system.
But 4WABS DOES.
Speed Control Wiring Diagram in a 94
Source: by Ford

Yo G,
No. Airbag module has no interaction with speed control system.
But 4WABS DOES.
Speed Control Wiring Diagram in a 94
Source: by Ford

Hey Al,
Could the RABS sensor cause an issue with the speed control then? I do have a a hard shift from 1st to 2nd as well. Thoughts?

 

[miesk5]

Hey Al,
Could the RABS sensor cause an issue with the speed control then? I do have a a hard shift from 1st to 2nd as well. Thoughts?

Yo,
Yes
Fuse 13 Blown, Stop & Hazard Lamps, Stop Sensor for Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS), Speed Control, & PCM Short Circuits, Common Locations TSB 95-02-11 for 94-95 Bronco & F Series; See the location diagram
Source: by Ford via Chilton.

 

[miesk5]

Overwrote these

 

[Guillermo]

An update:
> All the fuses are good.
> Clock spring is good
> Horn and airbag work.
> Continuity to the servo is good.
> Speedometer/odometer work.
> No abs lights

I *think* I'm running out of electrical options and the issue might be mechanical. Perhaps the speed module itself? I've checked the cable wheel, it turns. But this is a 27 yr old vehicle and perhaps it's toast? Thoughts.

 

[johnnyreb]

All OEM light bulbs. Appreciate the feedback!

I replaced the OEM BULBS in the dash with LED and now I don,t have dash lights. I,m going back to OEM.

 

[miesk5]

An update:
> All the fuses are good.
> Clock spring is good
> Horn and airbag work.
> Continuity to the servo is good.
> Speedometer/odometer work.
> No abs lights

I *think* I'm running out of electrical options and the issue might be mechanical. Perhaps the speed module itself? I've checked the cable wheel, it turns. But this is a 27 yr old vehicle and perhaps it's toast? Thoughts.

Yo,
Concentrate on the Servo. See this troubleshooting version in 96 Bronco Workshop Manual @ http://www.diesel-dave.com/vehic/manual/stj/stja3005.htm#a

 

[miesk5]

Yo,
The 1.8 ohms issue. Try the test again.

 

[Guillermo]

Yo,
The 1.8 ohms issue. Try the test again.

I will revisit this one.

 

[miesk5]

I will revisit this one.

Yo G,
And right below the resistance tests, see info about rotating the steering wheel...

 

[Guillermo]

Yo G,
And right below the resistance tests, see info about rotating the steering wheel...

Quick question Al: where is G200. I'm also looking into the s216 (splice, switch?). Thank you sir.

 

[miesk5]

Yo G,
G200 pic in lower side of passenger side plastic kick panel with green *****.

Pic is titled, "1356 Electric Shift Control Module Location pic; as Steve3 pointed-out, "...The module I MIS-labelled as "Airbag" is actually the Wiper Control Module (WCM). The Airbag Diagnostic Module (ADM) is light blue, wrapped in black foam, above the gas pedal..." Fireguy50 pointed out the error.