front spring "shims"

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Krafty

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I was looking on broncograveyard today and I saw that they had 1/4" steel "washers" that goes between the bottom of the spring and the axle. stack able up to 1". it would be just to bring the front up a bit and to compensate for my bush bar.

I was just wondering if anyone had gone this route before. it goes around the bolt that the bottom spring retainer is on so they have nowhere to go.

this would be for my 93 f150

 
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I saw the 1/4" washers and thought "I could make those myself" with some 1/4 steel and a short time with a plasma cutter I could have a set ready to install in about 15 minutes.

the plymouth is moving ahead of schedule, im working on getting the subframe cleaned up and ready for paint while im waiting on brake pads, shocks and body steel to fix the fenders.

if I can get organised with the parts I should have the front end together and rolling by end of day Sunday. Then it will have a big date with a sandblaster.

 

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Hey Krafty,

Yeah I put them on a friends 150. They seem to work ok for a little front lift, but wouldn't use them if you were gonna seriously go offroad.

Good Luck dude.

P.S.; how goes the plymouth?
Yeah I agree, I did the same.

 
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i havnt ruled out doing the shims, but my question is how do you get on that nut on the bottom of the spring without torching the old springs out. if I was doing lift springs then that would be an option. I just cant seem to get on that nut with enough perch to bust it loose. stupid rust... why do I like doing this kind of stuff again?

 

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...why do I like doing this kind of stuff again?

Because like the rest of us...... its your blood ;) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

 

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To get on that nut i use a deep half inch drive 1-1/8" socket and a long extention so i can put the ratchet on top of the spring tower

 
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alrighty now we're getting somewhere, at this point what I might do is wait till I have to replace my front shocks which won't be too long down the road then do the shims at the same time. I dont have a spring compressor and to get the top of the spring out without a compressor I have to unbolt the bottom of my shocks so id be 1/4 way done a shock job anyways. hmmm on second thought using a spring compressor would mean I don't need as long of an extension.

 
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no spring compresser needed with truck supported on the frame the bottom fo the tire will need to be about 6" off the ground remove nut from the bottom of the spring useing 1/2" drive long extension place floor jack under the head of the bolt that holds radius arm to axel lift up only far enuff to be able to unbolt the bottom of the shock or shocks SLOWLY lower the axel being sure the brake hose doesnt get stretched remove spring insert spacer reassemble, repeat on other side. start to finish 1 hour

 

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yo,

Elmo has it dead-on!

Removal & Installation in 80-96 Bronco & 4-wheel drive F-150; "...1.Raise and support the front end on jackstands. 2.Remove the shock absorber lower attaching bolt and nut. 3.Remove the spring lower retainer nuts from inside of the spring coil. 4.Remove the upper spring retainer by removing the attaching *****. 5.Position jackstands under the frame side rails and lower the axle on a floor jack just enough to relieve tension from the spring. The axle must be supported on the jack throughout spring removal, and must not be permitted to hang from the brake hose. If the length of the brake hose does not provide sufficient clearance it may be necessary to remove and support the brake caliper. 6.Remove the spring lower retainer and lower the spring from the vehicle. To install: 7.Place the spring in position and slowly raise the front axle. Make sure the springs are positioned correctly in the upper spring seats. 8.Install the lower spring retainer and torque the nut to 100 ft. lbs. (135 Nm). 9.Position the upper retainer over the spring coil and tighten the attaching screws to 13-18 ft. lbs. (18-24 Nm). 10.Position the shock absorber to the lower bracket and torque the attaching bolt and nut to 65 ft. lbs. (88 Nm). 11.Remove the jackstands and lower the vehicle..."

Source: by Chilton

see parts diagram @ http://content.chiltonsonline.com/content/images/8492/images/84928038.pdf

Compare w/Removal & Installation, Parts Break-Out Diagram & Torques in a 96 from 1996 F-150, F-250 4x4 and Bronco Workshop Manual

CAUTION: The axle must be supported on the jack throughout spring removal and installation, and must not hang by the front brake hose (2078). If the length of the front brake hose is not sufficient to provide adequate clearance for removal and installation of the front coil spring (5310), the disc brake caliper (2B120) must be removed from the spindle according to the procedures specified in Section 06-03. After removal, the disc brake caliper must be placed on the frame or otherwise supported to prevent suspending the disc brake caliper from the caliper hose. These precautions are absolutely necessary to prevent serious damage to the tube portion of the front brake hose assembly.

Raise the vehicle on a twin-post (axle contact type) hoist. If a frame hoist is used, raise the vehicle and position tall jack stands under the front axle. Lower the hoist until the axle is in the normal ride height position.

Remove the front shock absorber-to-lower bracket attaching bolt and nut.

For vehicles equipped with quad shocks, remove the attaching nut and front shock lower mount from the stud on the bracket.

Remove front coil spring lower retainer attaching nut from inside of the spring coil.

Remove front coil spring upper retainer attaching ***** and upper retainer.

Position safety stands under the frame side rails and lower the axle enough to relieve tension from the front coil spring. If a frame hoist is used, slowly lower the hoist enough to relieve tension on the front coil springs.

Remove the front coil spring lower retainer and the front coil spring.

Installation

Place the front coil spring in position and slowly raise the front axle, or raise the hoist if a frame hoist is being used. Make sure front coil springs are positioned correctly in the upper spring seats.

Position the front spring lower retainer over the stud and lower seat and install the attaching nut 94-134 Nm (70-100 lb-ft).

Position the upper retainer over the front spring and install the attaching screws 18-24 Nm (13-18 lb-ft).

Position the front shock absorber (18124) to the lower bracket and install the attaching bolt and nut with the bolt head toward the tire. Tighten the bolt and nut to 60-81 Nm (45-60 lb-ft).

If the vehicle has quad shocks, position the front shock absorber in place and install the attaching nut. Tighten to 60-81 Nm (45-60 lb-ft).

Remove safety stands and lower the vehicle.

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Item Part Number Description

1 N805348 Nut and Washer Assembly

2 18198 Insulator

3 5B315 Spring and Shock Bracket

4 5A333 Upper Retainer

5 40949 Bolt

6 18124 Front Shock Absorber

7 620468 Nut

8 620469 Nut

9 18126 Shock Bracket

10 805033 Bolt (Must Be Installed in Direction Shown)

11 3405 Radius Arm (RH)

12 3A292 Radius Arm (LH)

13 605921 Bolt

14 3002 Axle

15 58740 Bolt

16 3B446 Front Axle Radius Arm Bracket

17 40954 Bolt (2 Req'd)

18 390678 Stud

19 5B316 Lower Spring Seat

20 5414 Front Spring Insulator

21 5A349 Retainer

22 388833 Nut

23 5310 Front Coil Spring

A � Tighten to 34-46 Nm

(26-33 Lb-Ft)

B � Tighten to 18-24 Nm

(13-18 Lb-Ft)

C � Tighten to 34-46 Nm

(26-33 Lb-Ft)

D � Tighten to 60-81 Nm

(45-60 Lb-Ft)

E � Tighten to 364-440 Nm (269-325 Lb-Ft) Then Hand-Tighten to

434-461 Nm

(320-340 Lb-Ft)

F � Tighten to 26-34 Nm

(19-25 Lb-Ft)

G � Tighten to 258-311 Nm (190-230 Lb-Ft) Then Hand-Tighten to

326-352 Nm

(240-260 Lb-Ft)

H � Tighten to 94-134 Nm (70-100 Lb-Ft)

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for posterity

Quad Shocks, F-150 and Bronco with Dana Model 44 IFS Front Drive Axle

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Item Part Number Description

1 805348 Nut and Washer

2 802084 Washer

3 18198 Insulator

4 5A333 Front Spring Upper Mounting Retainer

5 40949 Bolt

6 18124 Front Shock Absorber

7 620468 Nut

8 620469 Nut

9 18126 Shock Bracket

10 3405 Radius Arm (RH)

11 3A292 Radius Arm (LH)

12 805033 Bolt (Must Be Installed in Direction as Shown)

13 605921 Bolt

14 58740 Bolt

15 40954 Bolt (2 Req'd)

16 18A151 Front Lower Shock Bracket (RH)

17 18A153 Front Lower Shock Bracket (LH)

18 N806085 Nut and Washer

19 390678 Stud

20 5A349 Retainer

21 N800895 Nut

22 5310 Front Coil Spring

23 5A307 Lower Spring Seat

24 5414 Front Spring Insulator

A � Tighten to 34-47 Nm

(25-35 Lb-Ft)

B � Tighten to 18-24 Nm

(13-18 Lb-Ft)

C � Tighten to 34-46 Nm

(26-33 Lb-Ft)

D � Tighten to 60-81 Nm

(45-60 Lb-Ft)

E � Tighten to 434-461 Nm (320-339 Lb-Ft)

F � Tighten to 26-34 Nm

(19-25 Lb-Ft)

G � Tighten to 326-352 Nm (240-260 Lb-Ft)

 

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yo, btw; on Shock Absorber "Life-Time Warranties"

Changed from OEM shocks to KYB Gas-a-Just® and they were much better than stock. Less harshness over road & bridge expansion joints/strips, RR tracks, etc.

However, they began to rust on the tubes within 6 months; contacted company and they said the rust is Not normal, but would not honor a return or offer an adjustment. Why? because I bought them from "un-authorized KYB distributor"

see their bs KYB Limited WarrantyI then stopped by the mom & pop tire/ parts store where I bought them and they were upset as well bec. they said this was a recent change and their KYB "contract" says they are "authorized", but KYB says the tire store is a distr and "not authorized"; so they sent all KYBs back and will not carry the line anymore.

I have pic of the rust here a year after install;

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much-much worse now

 
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thanks miesk5 once I get the shims cut up at work Ill work on getting them installed. lately ive been preoccupied with fixing a leaky fuel line on my wifes car but I should get that taken care of this week sometime. when I do the shims ill take some before and after pictures.

 

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