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ygbsm135

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My check engine light comes on and goes off intermittently. It happened ~10 times in a 30 mile ride tonight. The Bronco seems to shudder a little bit when coming to a stop and sometimes it seems hard to keep a constant speed while cruising. My guess is a timing issue and I'll be at Auto Zone tomorrow getting it checked. I'll let you guys know what it comes out to be and ask you post your insights.

What really torques me is the 30 mile ride was from the dealer, where I just bought it, to my home. They'll hear from me about this but I'm not so sure it will do any good. $-)

 

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possibley the timing more likey the o2 sensor screwing up fooling then engine into dumping WAY too much fuel in drownin the plugs

 

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ok i just got doing my o2 sensors $160 later. but my light was always on. it also had lak of power. from it. I woud take it to autozone or advance find out whats causing the light to do that. than take it bak to the dealer you go it from demand you want it fix.

 

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yo!

The dealer should repair it, esp. if you have a "no labor" guarantee.

Post the code here if the dealer is a creep about it.

GL!

 
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ygbsm135

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The dealer should repair it, esp. if you have a "no labor" guarantee.

Post the code here if the dealer is a creep about it.

GL!
Bad on me for not buying a warranty for $1500 on a $5000 vehicle...I've had great luck up to this point (I hate buying new cars). The Bronco looks great, has the 5.0 and less than 70k on the engine and the rest of it. It's a reputable dealer but since I got it at wholesale price, I don't think they feel any obligation.

The code was 3-3...EGR. I went back to the dealer but their mechanics are out until tomorrow; they asked me to bring it back. While I was looking for the EEC plugin, I saw some coolant on top of the reservoir but the level is well below (~4 inches) the top. I'll bet a chunk of money I can handle the EGR but I've NEVER seen something like that with coolant. I'll have to research but I'm guessing a clog of some sort. The engine temp guage seems to be working fine and it hasn't even reached the halfway mark.

Thanks for the moral support, I'll keep you guys up to date.

-Y

 

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Bad on me for not buying a warranty for $1500 on a $5000 vehicle...I've had great luck up to this point (I hate buying new cars). The Bronco looks great, has the 5.0 and less than 70k on the engine and the rest of it. It's a reputable dealer but since I got it at wholesale price, I don't think they feel any obligation.
The code was 3-3...EGR. I went back to the dealer but their mechanics are out until tomorrow; they asked me to bring it back. While I was looking for the EEC plugin, I saw some coolant on top of the reservoir but the level is well below (~4 inches) the top. I'll bet a chunk of money I can handle the EGR but I've NEVER seen something like that with coolant. I'll have to research but I'm guessing a clog of some sort. The engine temp guage seems to be working fine and it hasn't even reached the halfway mark.

Thanks for the moral support, I'll keep you guys up to date.

-Y
YO!

I wrote guarantee, not an extended warranty. A guarantee to pass State Insepection; if you live in a state that will Not Pass a vehicle with a CEL; even if it was wholesale price...

Coolant on top of reserv.' this happens in Ford's a lot; I wrap some alum foil around Resv. neck to reduce loss.

There is no code 3-3; if you meant 33;

DTC 33 EGR Valve Position sensor indicates that the EGR valve is not opening - Insufficient EGR flow detected

Possible causes:

EGR valve sticking closed

EGR valve diaphragm leaks

EVR solenoid sticking closed

Loss of vacuum to or from EVR

Open in EVR VPWR or driver circuits

Leak or restriction in PFE/DPFE signal hoses

To diagnose:

Key off

Connect a vacuum pump to the EGR valve.

While observing the EGR valve, slowly apply 34kPa (10 in-Hg) vacuum.

Note:EGR valve should begin to open with a very small amount of vacuum, approximately 3 to 5kPa (1-1.5in-Hg). EGR valve should remain open with vacuum applied or else vacuum diaphragm could be leaking if the valve closes immediately.

Does the EGR valve open smoothly and hold vacuum?

If EGR valve does NOT open smoothly and hold vacuum, Remove and Inspect the EGR valve for signs of diaphragm damage or leakage, contamination, unusual wear, carbon deposits, binding, and other damage. Service as necessary (including cleaning the unit with carb/throttle body cleaner). Clear continuous memory codes. Rerun tests.

If EGR valve does open smoothly and hold vacuum inspect EVR solenoid hoses.

Disconnect EVR vacuum hoses

Verify that hoses are clear of any obsructions, properly routed and will hold vacuum.

Are EVR vacuum hoses in good condition?

If not service vacuum hoses as necessary (generally replacement). Clear continuous memory and rerun tests.

If EVR vacuum hoses ARE in good condition reconnect EVR hoses and inspect PFE/DPFE signal line(s).

Disconnect PFE/DPFE signal hoses at the sensor.

Inspect sensor and signal line(s) for any signs of contamination, obstruction or leaks.

Is there a fault indicated?

If so isolate fault and service as necessary. Clear continuous memory codes and rerun tests.

If not reconnect all components and inspect EVR solenoid.

Note: The contents of this test procedure involve using a breakout box. More than likely you will not have access to one of these. If you find yourself in this situation you have options, but the inexperienced mechanic should probably not try to be creative with this test. Either have the EVR solenoid tested somewhere with the proper equipment or take the chance on it being bad and purchase a new one.

Key off

Disconnect ECU harness connector. Inspect for damaged or pushed out pins, corrosion, loose wires, etc. Service as necessary.

Install breakout box and connect ECU to breakout box.

Disconnect vacuum hose at EGR valve and connect hose to a vacuum gauge.

Run engine to operating temperature and stabilized idle.

Jump test pin 40 to test pin 33 at the breakout box which should turn ON the EVR solenoid.

While reading the vacuum gauge, tap the EVR solenoid, wiggle the solenoid connector and solenoid vehicle harness. Look for a sudden drop in vacuum reading as you perform each action.

Is there a fault indicated?

If so, isolate and service fault as necessary. Reconnect all components, clear continuous memory, and rerun tests.

If not, test procedures are unable to duplicate and/or identify fault at this time.

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by Ryan

EGR Vacuum Regulator (EVR) & tests

EGR Valve Position sensor (EVP)

GL

 
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