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i have a pin hole in the side wall of my tire. every product i look at like the fix a flats and the slime's all say they arent designed to fix side wall problems. i know i cant plug it. is there any product i havent found yet that does work on side walls or should i just abandon the tire. wich would be a shame because it still has lots of tread.

 

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buy a new tire. even if you patch it. it will fail. the sidewall flexes too much, cornering, braking, bumps. just get a new tire. any tire shop will tell you the same thing. as well, tire shops will only patch normal holes 3 patches tops per tire

 

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The tire's a loss, it won't be worth repairing. I've *tried* fixing them in the past & you just can't do it. It moves & flexes so much that the broken ends of the steel belts saw thru a plug if you install one & none of the "slime" type products ever get up to the sidewall because the spinning tires slings it all onto the backside of the tread.

If you *really* want to take every step possible to save the thing you can try dismounting it & applying a self-vulcanizing patch to the backside of the hole. That might or might not work and at the extreme end of the scale you can patch it & run an innertube in that tire. Truth be told I don't even know that they sell tubes anymore or where you'd buy one. I did this a few time when I was in High School and simply refused to buy new tires but by the time you dismount it, patch it, remove thr valve stem, install the tube & remount the tire you've spend the better part of a day at it it'll cost you probably 75% of what a new tire would have. The tube makes the tire a bitch to balance and if it's up front you notice a difference between the tubed & regular tire that will cause the truck to pull to one side (the mass of the tube effects the way the tire rolls) It's not really a cost-effective option unless you happen to own or have access to a shop with a tire-changer & balancing machine.

 
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The tire's a loss, it won't be worth repairing. I've *tried* fixing them in the past & you just can't do it. It moves & flexes so much that the broken ends of the steel belts saw thru a plug if you install one & none of the "slime" type products ever get up to the sidewall because the spinning tires slings it all onto the backside of the tread.
If you *really* want to take every step possible to save the thing you can try dismounting it & applying a self-vulcanizing patch to the backside of the hole. That might or might not work and at the extreme end of the scale you can patch it & run an innertube in that tire. Truth be told I don't even know that they sell tubes anymore or where you'd buy one. I did this a few time when I was in High School and simply refused to buy new tires but by the time you dismount it, patch it, remove thr valve stem, install the tube & remount the tire you've spend the better part of a day at it it'll cost you probably 75% of what a new tire would have. The tube makes the tire a bitch to balance and if it's up front you notice a difference between the tubed & regular tire that will cause the truck to pull to one side (the mass of the tube effects the way the tire rolls) It's not really a cost-effective option unless you happen to own or have access to a shop with a tire-changer & balancing machine.
that blows.... its not that old and its a two hundred dollar tire. thats life i guess

 

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I agree with the others, the tire should be scrapped. Consider getting the road hazzard warranty when you buy expensive tires. JSM84

 
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i have a pin hole in the side wall of my tire. every product i look at like the fix a flats and the slime's all say they arent designed to fix side wall problems. i know i cant plug it. is there any product i havent found yet that does work on side walls or should i just abandon the tire. wich would be a shame because it still has lots of tread.
I agree with the others. you cannot and should not fix a sidewall. It sucks that the tire is still good, but its better than messing with it and having it blowout running down the freeway.

 

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I agree with the others, the tire should be scrapped. Consider getting the road hazzard warranty when you buy expensive tires. JSM84

:) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> I'm glad YOU said that. I wrote the same thing & then deleted it figuring he probably wasn't in the mood the hear that <grin> but I agree completely. When buying tires that cost as much as ours do I always get the road hazzard insurance because it bites having to replace a 6 month old 35" tire that cost $240. The RH insurance usually runs less than $20 per tire and I don't know HOW many times I've taken advantage of it over the years. I'll usually get 3yrs or so from a good set of tires and I honestly can't count the number of times I've picked up a nail or had a small sidewall puncture just like this. Almost *every* time I buy the RH insurance I wind up using it within a year or two. JSM is dead-nuts right on this one, it's money well spent 95% of the time. With what our tires cost it just makes sense.

 
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I agree with the others, the tire should be scrapped. Consider getting the road hazzard warranty when you buy expensive tires. JSM84

:) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> I'm glad YOU said that. I wrote the same thing & then deleted it figuring he probably wasn't in the mood the hear that <grin> but I agree completely. When buying tires that cost as much as ours do I always get the road hazzard insurance because it bites having to replace a 6 month old 35" tire that cost $240. The RH insurance usually runs less than $20 per tire and I don't know HOW many times I've taken advantage of it over the years. I'll usually get 3yrs or so from a good set of tires and I honestly can't count the number of times I've picked up a nail or had a small sidewall puncture just like this. Almost *every* time I buy the RH insurance I wind up using it within a year or two. JSM is dead-nuts right on this one, it's money well spent 95% of the time. With what our tires cost it just makes sense.
hmm if its twenty dollars a tire how about i just insure one tire and wich ever one goes down that will be the one i claim on the insurance haha. in all honesty i've never heard of such a thing but i will definatly ask about it next time i buy them.

 

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I always get the "Road Hazzard" warranty on new tires for my work trucks, since i travel alot of gravel roads and often cut an otherwise good tire. It usually takes into account the mileage you've put on the tire, but will still refund all or part of the cost of a new replacement. I had a whole lug cut off of one of my Firestone Destination MT's recently, and the tire had over 40K miles on it. Still got about %50 off a new one, which runs right at $250 total. Those are 10-ply tires, too. JSM84

 

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I had a friend get a small hole in the sidewall of his Brand new KM2 BFG Mud Terrain.(42 inches tall, a VERY expensive tire) He was dead set on fixing it. We ended up taking the tire off the rim putting in a plug and cutting it flush(on both sides of the sidewall) and putting a patch on the inside. He also had a 24 ounce bottle of slime he got at the local parts shop and since it was there, In it went(the whole bottle) After all this work and 2 and a half hours(we tried to get the tire on the wheel the old fashioned way) we went to a tire shop to remount it(at 20 dollars for one tire). We were feeling good about our mickey moused tires end all super patch(that names gonna be trademarked and the patch patented, Just kidding). The tire got mounted(Ithought the patch would fall apart when we set the bead but it held). He drove off with me in tow and while driving down the road I noticed his truck start to lean and a tire looked like it was loosing pressure(guess which). Long story short sidewall patches don't work and You should just buy a new tire and save the humiliation of having to tell the guys at the tire shop in high school spanish that your numskull idea didin't work and your dad had to loan you money for a new tire. :blush:

 

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The ONLY way to salvage a sidewall puncture is to patch it internally & use an innertube. That's it. No options. And those tubes are getting pretty damn rare these days. I don't even know where to *start* looking for one so chances are it's really not a viable option anymore unless anyone here has a link to someone who sells tubes for passenger tires. You can get them for Semi-tires & farm implements but that's it as far as I know.

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Yup, just spent some time looking & the only tubes I found were all for OTR trucks & farm equipment. Now that's not to say that with some searching you can't find a tube and it will get easier to find something the larger the tire is but still, the larger the tire the heavier the tube will be and the further off it will skew things. It really isn't an option anymore

 
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The ONLY way to salvage a sidewall puncture is to patch it internally & use an innertube. That's it. No options. And those tubes are getting pretty damn rare these days. I don't even know where to *start* looking for one so chances are it's really not a viable option anymore unless anyone here has a link to someone who sells tubes for passenger tires. You can get them for Semi-tires & farm implements but that's it as far as I know.
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Yup, just spent some time looking & the only tubes I found were all for OTR trucks & farm equipment. Now that's not to say that with some searching you can't find a tube and it will get easier to find something the larger the tire is but still, the larger the tire the heavier the tube will be and the further off it will skew things. It really isn't an option anymore
ok well looks like i'll just get a used tire for now. i wouldnt even think about patching it i just thought there might be a product i hadnt heard of that was able to stick to the sidewalls.... thanks for all the input guys.

 

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