78 bronco headers

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not sure if anyone on here has the summit brand full length headers on their broncos...but i am going to be running a set of these and i've ran into this problem along with a couple other of my ford buddies with the collector being around 3-4 inches away from the crossmember and smack dab in the middle of it making it harder to run exhaust..just wondering what some of you may have done to fix this problem...i personally am leaning towards notching my cross member if i cant have something made...i would appreciate any and all ideas

 

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not sure if anyone on here has the summit brand full length headers on their broncos...but i am going to be running a set of these and i've ran into this problem along with a couple other of my ford buddies with the collector being around 3-4 inches away from the crossmember and smack dab in the middle of it making it harder to run exhaust..just wondering what some of you may have done to fix this problem...i personally am leaning towards notching my cross member if i cant have something made...i would appreciate any and all ideas
Well, this is sort of an apples & oranges sort of response, but I had a similar problem with a set of L&L fenderwell exit headers knocking against the passenger side body mount because the ****** wasn't ground at a very good angle. I wound up notching a good-size piece out of that body-mount to get the clearance. I wouldn't have a problem notching the crossmember but if I DID I'd go back in and weld in a fitted piece to "box" in what I cut out, if that makes any sense to you. I kow how I'd do it but I'm not sure I could describe it well enuf without a photo & since I've never done it I surely don't have the photo. I'd do it but I'd just make sure I restored as much of the crossmembers intergety as I could.

 
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i hear ya on the notching the cross member..basically what im gonna do is cut an area out...make a little like box going up on an angle so i can run the pipe up...and im also gonna gusset it and run other pieces off the steel box i make just to reinforce it...i have a good amount of 1/4 inch steel laying around so im gonna go for it and try to take pics...also where did you get your fenderwell exit headers and how much were they...i may even consider going that route

 

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i hear ya on the notching the cross member..basically what im gonna do is cut an area out...make a little like box going up on an angle so i can run the pipe up...and im also gonna gusset it and run other pieces off the steel box i make just to reinforce it...i have a good amount of 1/4 inch steel laying around so im gonna go for it and try to take pics...also where did you get your fenderwell exit headers and how much were they...i may even consider going that route

I only mention it because years ago I was on a trail ride with a medium-sized group of guys and actually watched a guy with a nice F250 take a bad hop into a tree. HE had notched his crossmember for header clearance and the whole nose just folded right up from the passenger side. The hood looked like a tent and the engine dropped at *least* 4 inches when one of the perches collapsed. It took ALL of us (something like 7 or 8 trucks) two full days to drag the thing back down to the trailhead and everybody stopped having fun just as soon as it happened. A really nice trail rig became a parts truck in an instant.

I didn't feel too bad about a single body-mount but a crossmember ? I'd do everything I could to reinforce it after taking a chunk out of it like that but it sounds like you're already on the same sheet of music.

My fenderwells came from L&L in Texas but they were for a 460 swap. I've actually bought 3 sets of these headers from them and love the things. I just did a quick search though and couldn't find a single fenderwell header for a stock 351/400 truck. It used to be that ****** has a set but I didn't search their site to see if they still offered them. L&L originally sold Doug Thorley headers and I think they're still the same even after Thorley sold the rights and had his name 'jacked. I believe these days he's forced to sell headers under the name "Doug's Headers". I did a search and "Doug Thorley's" are still sold and so are "Doug's headers" so I don't think he ever got the rights back to use his own name on his own product, poor bastard.

Anyways, if you've got or want a 460 then you're cool because L&L has them and if not then you've got some searching to do or you'll need to just have a set bent up. I've actually gone the custom fenderwell route and it cost me just shy of $750, which when you compare that to the $580 L&L wants and add the shipping I guess it's in the same ballpark. Sorry to be so longwinded but that's about as much as I can tell you & I hope you find something usefull in the ramblings.

 
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the way i am going to be doing the crossmember its going to be reinforced ery well...going to run gussets off the box i make so i should be alright as far as that goes...and yeah i searched for the fenderwell exits and they're a little out of my price range i could probably have headers made for around 500...im going to go the 100 dollar route with summit brand full length headers for now....thanks for all your input though i appreciate it and when i do the crossmember i will try my hardest to get pictures of it for ya

 

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Swamp, I have headers on both the 78 Bronco and 79 F-150, not sure of the brand. I can take a look next weekend and see how they're routed. Both motors are the 351M, JSM84

 
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i figured out how im gonna do it...my brother just got a 79 with 351m that has the same exact headers..im ordering manderal u-bends from summit and just gotta cut them and basically make a king of hard 90 bend up then another bend over the crossmember..might have to notch it a bit so the exhaust doesnt hit but that will just take a little grinding

 
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ordered the headers..they will be at my house by monday or tuesday and the motor will be out and back in between tomorrow night and sunday night so i will start my exhaust when ig et the headers.i will try my hardest to get pics for everyone

 

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