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shadowscion

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The 1977 Bronco's had a 302 windsor v8 in it right? How much horse power did these ones have? I read on wiki that the 302 kept going down in power in the mid-late 70s until fuel injection was introduced. Is this true?

 

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Yup, thats right. The power went down because of emissions crap. If you live in a state that doesn't require the emissions garbage if you have classic or collectors tags, take it all off and you will gain a few HP.

 

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The 289 in 66-67 was rated @ 200 HP The 302's highest rating was 205 69-71

after that..., they were "de-tuned" mostly on paper to satisfy the feds.

& the RPM for HP ratings was dropped from 600 to as much as 1000 RPM.

The 77 was rated @ 134 HP @ 3600 RPM

The 71 was rated @ 205 HP @ 4600 RPM

These older 302's are a "slug" of an eng. but are great for 4x4'n as they do put out some torque in lower RPM'S...that's what's important.

B B)

 

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What is it that actually reduced the power? The carb?
There are a number of factors that led to the HP numbers spiraling down. As S Bolt stated emmissions control was at the heart of most of it. Probably the biggest culprit was lowered compression so they'd run better on cheaper gas and also produce lower emmissions as regular leaded fuel was phased out in favor of unleaded. Fuel prices were starting to climb and some of these changes were to help increase milage. When catalytic converters appeared so did the air pump so now you've got another accessory for the engine to spin and that takes horsepower that would otherwise go to the wheels. Power steering started getting popular around this time so now you've got *two* new accessories bolted to the engine and PS pumps take some juice to spin. Most of the engines were also "detuned" meaning they were setup by the factory for low emmission numbers not high HP numbers and the cam was an early casualty of the new priorities. The carbs were also changed and you had a host of odd equipment tossed under the hood (coffee cans, EGR valves and the like) and power brakes started showing up. All these things were vacuum operated, so once again, the cam took a hit because they needed cams that would produce a lot of vacuum not HP, so HP was traded for vacuum. Somewhere in this timeframe the regulations for reporting HP were also changed. Early on the manufacturers used the HP at the flywheel as their refrence point because it gave an accurate picture of what the engine produced and it also had the benefit of being the highest number available and made for great advertising. SAE (at least I think it was SAE anyways, might have been DOT) switched from flywheel HP to net HP and started measuring it at the rear wheels. That dropped the ratings by approx 20% due to the power lost in the transmission & axle. During the 60's & 70's the factories were notorious for screwing around with HP numbers, sometimes it was to fool competators (like intentionally underrating the 396 SS Chevelles to surprise GTO owners at the redlight) and sometimes it was to ***** with the insurance companies (it costs a whole lot less to insure a 320HP car than it does a 475HP car). It wasn't any single change that did it which is why you can see a steady progression of lower & lower numbers as the changes kept coming.

 
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