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think it might be time to let the beast go and no good prospects for a replacement this one sucks

when I had to transport my tools to my new job I took the roof off and had to drive with the gate open and ratchet straps across the back to keep the boxes from rolling out when doing so I noticed that:

first....... the play in the steering and bump steer was gone it handled like new (no I am not exaggerating)

second... the gate was hard to close and it seems that the rear quarters spread apart after the ratchet straps came off and the window does not go all the way into the weather stripping like it did before

third ..... when driving down a bumpy stretch (after unloaded and top returned) its like a row boat in the high seas and a co-worker was following me and said the body is bouncing a good 3 or 4 inches while the bumper is not

well I checked the body mounts and found nothing loose or broken in the back just the core support ones rotted pretty good but has been like that for 2 years now

only bad rot is the wheel arches the drivers side A pillar is rusted thru just below the door hinge ( makes opening it REAL fun)

and the base of the B pillar along with the outer floor/ rocker area on drivers side

don't understand if mounts are good how or what is loose hate body work but don't want to let her go either

 
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ok the title is odd but this is driving me nuts :wacko: the squeaking from the gate is driving me nuts and am scared to drive this into winter as one good bump with the gate bouncing will send the rear window into pieces and I put the kids in this truck

 

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YO!

e ok

in re; "well I checked the body mounts and"...did you pull da carpet or vinyl mat up around the area where da mounts are? figure on a horror picture type scene,,, guessin' (based on some shore-based & road salt attacked and destroyed Broncos I've seen - as in your case I believe) that there is absolutely nothing left of floor pan/support bracing area where da bolt head is .. sorry

GL!

EDIT; found following by Steve;

"It didn't take me more than 5 hours working alone to change the whole truck, and I had to hacksaw 2 mounts and file 2 bolt heads. I wouldn't try doing them one at a time - you might twist the body permanently. Work down one frame rail, tighten them all back down, then move to the other side.

The rearmost bolts are the easiest to get to - just remove the tailgate

threshhold and peel the carpet back. The bolts (13mm heads)

are right there. If the heads are rusted (like mine), you can file

them down to a smaller hex so you can turn them again.

Continue peeling carpet forward and you'll see the access plates for

the next mounts, beside the wheelwells. I think the screws have 8mm

heads and all the rest of the bolts are 15mm.

The next set is just behind the front seats and I got to mine by pulling

the door threshholds, seatbelt reel covers, and kick panels (for the

next bolts). Then peel the carpet around until the access plates are

visible.

The last inside bolts are in the footwells. With the threshholds and

kick panels out, the carpet can be peeled from around the e-brake cable

and high-beam switch. I think these access plates have different screws.

The core support bolts are just outside the radiator opening on the

back side. These will be the worst because of battery acid and road

salt.

The lower section of the mounts consists of a nut welded to a round

plate with a tube sticking up. The tube has a flare near the top end.

The upper section is a plate with a tube going down that has a neck

near the bottom. At the factory, these tubes are pressed together

thru the frame with the rubber captive between the plates. This holds

them on before the body is dropped on and bolted down. It's also the

only reason this is a tricky job. The tubes lock together with corrosion

over the years and when the rubber sags, they funnel grit down onto

the bolts and their threads, making them sometimes impossible to remove

intact.

The tricks:

1. If you can con someone competent into doing it for less than $100,

get him working on it before the drugs wear off.

2. If you must do it yourself, have a good socket set with good ratchets,

extensions, and breaker bars, as well as a ball peen hammer, a blunt

drift (punch), vise grips, pry bars, a jack, 2-4 jack stands, a 6-foot

4x4 post, a hacksaw (Stanley Contractor with bimetalloy blades is the

best), anti-sieze lubricant, and all the Liquid Wrench from your state

and the 3 surrounding.

3. Soak the bolts (especially INSIDE the tubes) with Liquid Wrench

several times over the course of a week before starting.

4. Use the pry bars to lift the body and get the Liquid Wrench spray

tube on top of the top plate to fill the top tube.

5. Back up the nut from below (above on the core support) with vise

grips or wrenches so you don't twist it off the plate.

6. If the bolt won't turn, try vibrating it with the hammer & drift

(only on the head) to loosen the threads and let the Liquid Wrench

get in.

7. Work down one frame rail at a time so the body doesn't shift out

of line.

8. When you finally get a bolt out, rinse it and the hole it came

out of with Liquid Wrench and thread it back in about 5 turns. Put

the drift squarely on top of the head and smack it with the hammer.

After you lose a few fingernails, the tubes will separate and the

bottom section will drop out.

9. BIG TIP ! ! ! Coat the threads with "Anti-Sieze Lubricant" !!!

(I use it on everything.)

10. If the bolt won't turn, or the head strips, or the nut breaks

off, you will have to hacksaw through the tubes. Do it as high as

you can so you can reuse the lower section when you eventually separate

them. If the bolt breaks, you can still separate the tubes with the

drift and get the bolt out later. Don't be afraid to rip the old rubber

out of your way - you won't be reusing it.

11. When you have an entire side free (even if there are mounts that

need to be hacksawed), put the post under the door running front-to-back

along as many body reinforcements as possible. Then use it to lift

the body with the jack - 2 inches should be plenty. Don't go too high

or you'll damage the fuel filler and the fan or shroud. Later models

also have ground straps that may be too short, but they can be pried

off and hammered back on.

12. Remove the old mounts (by hacksawing if necassary) and top sections

and immediately replace them with the new ones. (You should have already

prepared them per mfr. instructions.)

13. Lower the body straight back onto the new mounts and reinstall

the bottom sections and bolts (this is where an assistant is handy).

If you must buy new bolts, get at least grade 5 or class 5.5; grade

8 or class 8.8-10.8 is better.

14. If you have a mechanical clutch linkage (like me), adjust it.

Automatics may have to adjust the shift linkage."

and of course our good friend Justshootme has a lot of info on his body mount/cage installations

I've seen people weld plates in there, etc. so strip it back and see what the damage is

 
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along with the mounts I am also wonering if the outer rear 1/4 panels may have something to do with it

please correct if I am wrong but dont they attach to the inner wheel well and the inner wheel well to the floor am thinking this due to using the ratchet straps accross the gate opening when I moved my box miight have pulled what little was left to the breaking point and should I replace the mounts at the same time as the core support or can I put off the core support until $$$ comes in

 

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along with the mounts I am also wonering if the outer rear 1/4 panels may have something to do with it please correct if I am wrong but dont they attach to the inner wheel well and the inner wheel well to the floor am thinking this due to using the ratchet straps accross the gate opening when I moved my box miight have pulled what little was left to the breaking point and should I replace the mounts at the same time as the core support or can I put off the core support until $$$ comes in
yo, starting from passenger door B Pillar, there are spot welds as shown by Sixlitre; here is the whole replacement Link

and inner wheel well is spot welded to the 1/4 panel itself

see this pic

Wheel weels are welded to inner section as shown by bossind

as you can see; imagine the inner section rusted out along wells, floor pan and worse B Pillars.

as in Rick's

and body mount

Body Mount Parts Break-Out & Locations for 94 (other years are similar) Source: by Steve83 - check those areas as well as B pillars.

Our expert pal, justshootme84 has better info on this, as he shows in this pic

 

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can't guess on what is worse & has to be done first, my friend.

Core supports prob 1st due to need to keep all that stuff tight. You'll need a lot ofwelding/ patchng to do in back if the rust is as bad as you described.

 
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finnaly had some time to get some work done today and heres what I found seems that the area on the outside of the bed (not the corrogated part) has pretty much rotted out not the wheel wells surprisingly and the body mount are solid still as I thought but they still should be done not the greatest art work but best I can do without a cammera any one know where to get these panals (floor sections affected shown in red)Untitled.jpg

 

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finnaly had some time to get some work done today and heres what I found seems that the area on the outside of the bed (not the corrogated part) has pretty much rotted out not the wheel wells surprisingly and the body mount are solid still as I thought but they still should be done not the greatest art work but best I can do without a cammera any one know where to get these panals (floor sections affected shown in red)View attachment 5083

yo!

Look here;

Jeff's Broncograveyard

and:

Mill Supply:

http://www.rustrepair.com/repair_panels/on...mp;p=sm-ford.pu

http://www.tri-proautomotive.com/servlet/t...onco/Categories

http://www.autostyles.com/bpbronco8096.htm

 

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