Transmission question

[SPIDERMONKEY]

Hello again,I was hoping to get some more good advice from the experts.

My 86 has a 351c with a c6 behind it and im looking at swapping it for an AOD

will this work, is there a certain year i need for a donor, what can i expect to run into

while doing this.

 

[illinoisbronco]

Hello again,I was hoping to get some more good advice from the experts.My 86 has a 351c with a c6 behind it and im looking at swapping it for an AOD

will this work, is there a certain year i need for a donor, what can i expect to run into

while doing this.

i know you would need as new coupling for the transfer case.

 

[Yardape]

How positive are you that its a 351c? If you are mistaken you might end up wasting money on the wrong transmission.

 

[SPIDERMONKEY]

How positive are you that its a 351c? If you are mistaken you might end up wasting money on the wrong transmission.

Pretty pos. I bought it from the original owner and it came with 351c ** and a c6 the owner said it was still all original i have no reason to suspect otherwise. is there a way to tell for sure this is the first Ford i have ever owen so im still learning them.

 

[Yardape]

The reason I ask is they only made the 351c from 69 to 74 so it kinda sounds to me like its a 351w. If you post a pic of it I can tell you what it is. If it says 5.8 h.o. Then you have a sweet engine. Its one of my favourites I would bet it is a 351w h.o. If that's the case you have plenty of overdrive tranny possibilities

 

[Yardape]

By that I mean they are plentiful...

 

[SPIDERMONKEY]

By that I mean they are plentiful...

it is probably a windsor I probably just was mistaken I would send you a pic to verrify but i am in Iraq right now so unfortuntely that might be out of the question till I redeploy.I appreciate the help what kind of OD trannys can i work with.Which one do you think would be best

 

[Justshootme84]

I agree with Blade, if it's an 86 Bronco original engine, then it will be the 351WINDSOR H.O. IF you're looking to swap to an overdrive auto, I don't know of one that would work with the 351C anyway. But back to the 351W H.O., you can either go with the AOD or an E4OD. IF I had a choice between the two, I would prolly go with the AOD for a couple reasons. One, the E40D is computer controlled. Two, the E40D is hella expensive to rebuild. The main drawback of the AOD is it's weakness, compared to the C6. You'll also have a really hard time finding the shifter linkage for the AOD and B-W 13-56 t-case, since that was the only t-case offered behind the AOD, AFAIK. This is my personal opinion, but I think you give up too much reliabilty and strength by swapping from the C6 to the AOD for the minimal gain from the overdrive. A better swap that you might look into would be to a manual ZF 5-sp OD tranny. JSM84

 

[SPIDERMONKEY]

I agree with Blade, if it's an 86 Bronco original engine, then it will be the 351WINDSOR H.O. IF you're looking to swap to an overdrive auto, I don't know of one that would work with the 351C anyway. But back to the 351W H.O., you can either go with the AOD or an E4OD. IF I had a choice between the two, I would prolly go with the AOD for a couple reasons. One, the E40D is computer controlled. Two, the E40D is hella expensive to rebuild. The main drawback of the AOD is it's weakness, compared to the C6. You'll also have a really hard time finding the shifter linkage for the AOD and B-W 13-56 t-case, since that was the only t-case offered behind the AOD, AFAIK. This is my personal opinion, but I think you give up too much reliabilty and strength by swapping from the C6 to the AOD for the minimal gain from the overdrive. A better swap that you might look into would be to a manual ZF 5-sp OD tranny. JSM84

Can I use the t-case i have now with a ZF 5-spd is there a web sight or a do it youself manual for doing the swap.Thanks for the input

 

[Yardape]

On that you should try and get miss kittens attention. She has done extensive research on that swap so maybe she can point you in the right direction. Here kitty kitty. Haha

 

[Miss Kitten]

meow hahhahaha

ya spider i can give you a hand with the research on that zf swap

i'm getting ready to rip the zf out of my donor truck starting tonight.

and to answer your question if you have the bw1356 for a tcase no adapter is needed. it will all bolt right up.

feel free to post up here or pm me any questions you have

i'll be putting a full tech write up on my site over the next couple weeks too with as many pics as i can get of the swap

 

[SPIDERMONKEY]

meow hahhahaha
ya spider i can give you a hand with the research on that zf swap

i'm getting ready to rip the zf out of my donor truck starting tonight.

and to answer your question if you have the bw1356 for a tcase no adapter is needed. it will all bolt right up.

feel free to post up here or pm me any questions you have

i'll be putting a full tech write up on my site over the next couple weeks too with as many pics as i can get of the swap

sweet!Thanks i will be looking forward to your write up.It will be a while before I actually do anything

I have to wait till I get home, but Im trying ti get all my ducks in a row now.I have alot i want to do to it so i'm reaserching everything I can now.I'll gladly accept any information you have to offer.Thanks again

 

[Miss Kitten]

no prob spider. if you do decide to go with the zf swap i would highly reccomend trying to find a full donor truck. all the parts are right there for you including the floor plan. the zf's are found in f250's (usually in the 92-96 range but i have heard of finding some in older f250's) make sure that it's coming from a 4x4 truck and it has to have the 5.8L engine in it. and when pricing out clutches definately go for the 11" one. i would also suggest replacing the master cylinder and ***** cylinder.