78-79 Clutch linkage, 4 speed, and 390 Engine question

[Daytona_500]

1976 F150 with a 360/390 Engine showed up at the junkyard and nobody was robbing the parts yet so I took a bunch.
I ended up pulling the clutch pedal and linkage for a possible future 4 speed from C6 auto conversion planned for the future. Will it work with a 351/400 or 460?
Also, the junkyarder has a 4 speed transmission and married transfer case. Can I use any of this with my 78 Bronco 351/400, and probably eventual 460. - I'm thinking - it's too good to be true, nope.

 

[NotaVegetarian]

Bet you Johnny can help

 

[chrlsful]

same ol, same ol, "Can it B done?" gets same ol, same ol = "how much money'n time U got"?

A better Q is: "What is ur APPLICATION?" end goal, use, 80% of driving RPMs? Then research how to get there (what components wrk 4 me?)

A 460 is an FE motor. Ford wrks w/families; chebby BB, sb. The 351M/400M R a diff fam even from Windsor'n Clevland (of same displacement). What is the bell they use? what trannys bolt up? Am I willing to locate/buy an adaptor (Advance Adpt is a well known maker) if needed?

Not so oddly the 460 starter fits my EB's i6 (co would rather make fewer rather than more diverse parts - easier to bang out millions that way) and its a lill 4.1 or 250 ci. HTH

 

[Daytona_500]

Wait... the 460 is an FE Motor??? I thought it was 352,360,390, 427, 428...
So, given what you said above, shouldn't a transmission from a 360/390 bolt right up to a 460 no problemo?
If it does, I'm halfway there already to ultimate goal.

 

[Ric330]

460 is not an FE. It's a 385 motor like the 429.

 

[Daytona_500]

Okay. Thought so. Thanks

 

[johnnyreb]

Ric330 is right. Alot of peoplethink the 390 is a big block. Its the medium size. The 429-460 are big blocks. The 390 will go into the 78-79 with very little work. And about 4 inches forward of the firewall. You don,t need the 4 row radiator--3 row would work fine. I can post pic later if you want. You,ll have to drill or burn holes in the mount towers. The transmisson bolted up. I don,t rememeber if the piolet bearing is the same or not. It might have to be changed--check it first.

 

[johnnyreb]

Wait... the 460 is an FE Motor??? I thought it was 352,360,390, 427, 428...
So, given what you said above, shouldn't a transmission from a 360/390 bolt right up to a 460 no problemo?
If it does, I'm halfway there already to ultimate goal.

First check the piolet bearing and the shaft on the transmission. The bellhouse is different that bolts to the motor--BUT the transmission WILL bolt to the bellhouseing. Check your--- bellhouseing--Now which motor are you useing to put in the bronco. ?

 

[johnnyreb]

1976 F150 with a 360/390 Engine showed up at the junkyard and nobody was robbing the parts yet so I took a bunch.
I ended up pulling the clutch pedal and linkage for a possible future 4 speed from C6 auto conversion planned for the future. Will it work with a 351/400 or 460?
Also, the junkyarder has a 4 speed transmission and married transfer case. Can I use any of this with my 78 Bronco 351/400, and probably eventual 460. - I'm thinking - it's too good to be true, nope.

76 was the last year the pick up came with the 390. Good motor.

 

[johnnyreb]

Wait... the 460 is an FE Motor??? I thought it was 352,360,390, 427, 428...
So, given what you said above, shouldn't a transmission from a 360/390 bolt right up to a 460 no problemo?
If it does, I'm halfway there already to ultimate goal.

The difference in the bellhouseing. Is where it mates to the motor. The transmission will mate to the BACK of the bellhouseing

 

[johnnyreb]

76 was the last year the pick up came with the 390. Good motor.

You might also check the transmission shaft . That goes into the crank and check the pilot bearing

 

[johnnyreb]

1976 F150 with a 360/390 Engine showed up at the junkyard and nobody was robbing the parts yet so I took a bunch.
I ended up pulling the clutch pedal and linkage for a possible future 4 speed from C6 auto conversion planned for the future. Will it work with a 351/400 or 460?
Also, the junkyarder has a 4 speed transmission and married transfer case. Can I use any of this with my 78 Bronco 351/400, and probably eventual 460. - I'm thinking - it's too good to be true, nope.

I,d take the whole thing. The clutch ball part that attaches to the clutch pivot part and bolts to the block.Are also hard to come buy.

 

[Ric330]

If it's a 4 speed I'm thinking it will have a single speed transfer case. My 75 F100, 390 NP 4-speed did.
Also...I read somewhere (and kinda scratched my head) that the same bellhousing will fit the 400M, 429 and 460. Is this true?

 

[johnnyreb]

If it's a 4 speed I'm thinking it will have a single speed transfer case. My 75 F100, 390 NP 4-speed did.
Also...I read somewhere (and kinda scratched my head) that the same bellhousing will fit the 400M, 429 and 460. Is this true?

The 390 bellhouseing is different. The 400--351 mag--429 and 460 are the same. Its been awhile since I put my 390 in and I,m still working on it.

 

[johnnyreb]

Welcome to the club RICCO 330

 

[johnnyreb]

If it's a 4 speed I'm thinking it will have a single speed transfer case. My 75 F100, 390 NP 4-speed did.
Also...I read somewhere (and kinda scratched my head) that the same bellhousing will fit the 400M, 429 and 460. Is this true?

You sure it wasn,t high and low range?

 

[johnnyreb]

You sure it wasn,t high and low range?

You might be thinking SINGLE SHIFTER--on the transfer case.

 

[johnnyreb]

First check the piolet bearing and the shaft on the transmission. The bellhouse is different that bolts to the motor--BUT the transmission WILL bolt to the bellhouseing. Check your--- bellhouseing--Now which motor are you useing to put in the bronco. ?

The 429--460 is 385 series. The 352--360--361--390--391--428 and maybe a couple of others are FE motors also 410-These motors are consider MEDIUM SIZE. The 385 series are big blocks.

 

[Ric330]

You sure it wasn,t high and low range?

It was a Dana 21 single speed. If I'm not mistaken it was only used in the F100s with the NP435 trans. I guess they assumed since you had the granny low in the transmission you didn't need the low range.

and thanks for the welcome...I've actually lurked (and learned) quite a bit here but am not much of a prolific poster.

 

[johnnyreb]

It was a Dana 21 single speed. If I'm not mistaken it was only used in the F100s with the NP435 trans. I guess they assumed since you had the granny low in the transmission you didn't need the low range.

and thanks for the welcome...I've actually lurked (and learned) quite a bit here but am not much of a prolific poster.

That,s a new one to me. They say you never get to old to learn. All I have ever seen was the --really -- I think the duece and half I drove and 5 tons were just high and low .With one lever between the seat. I did see a old Cheverolet with a 4 speed transmission with a 4 speed auxilary once and it had 8 sets of duals on the rear. I seen a picture of a 41 Chevrolet with I think 12 sets if duals on the back. Sure would have hated to replace them all at one time.